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MNeagle 07-17-2009 12:31 PM

Homeless go 'missing'? Spooky
 
America�s �disappeared�: The homeless of the big cities

By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer

Jul 8, 2009, 00:18

(WMR) -- They were always seen by all who passed by, broke and idle in a number of Washington, DC, parks and grassy nooks. After 9/11, however, they began to disappear and in large numbers. �They� were the familiar faces of Washington�s homeless.

From Lafayette Park, across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House, to Virginia Avenue across from the State Department, and Franklin Square, amid the city�s glass and steel towers housing DC�s power elite to tony Georgetown, many homeless people, both those truly down on their luck and those who were mentally ill, began to disappear.

As one Washington homeless advocate told this editor, �These people simply vanished.�

The disappearance of homeless people from the streets of Washington began under the administration of Mayor Anthony Williams and continues in force under that of Adrian Fenty. Both African-American mayors, Democrats but beholden to deep-pocketed land developers in a city that rarely elects Republicans to office, began to quietly make it tougher for the homeless to survive in the nation�s capital. Last year, Fenty announced that the Franklin School Shelter at 13th an K Streets would be phased out, leaving the homeless residents of that shelter little choice but to move to the streets.

Last August, a number of homeless activists picketed Fenty�s home over the plans to close the Franklin shelter. WMR was told by one spokesperson for the homeless that one of the protesters, John McDermott, has also now �vanished.� The spokesperson added that there are many cases of people known to live on the streets of Washington simply �disappearing� without a trace.

Some major cities, including New York and Atlanta, have been discovered to be �dumping� their homeless residents on other smaller towns and cities. Others threaten their homeless with prison unless they leave town with usually a one-way bus ticket provided.

However, there is no evidence that Washington, DC, has been dumping homeless on other cities or paying their transportation out of town. The homeless spokesperson interviewed by WMR said that DC�s homeless are simply �vanishing� without a trace. DC officials in charge of the homeless are very tight-lipped when asked about the fate of unaccounted for homeless in the city.

Although the best-case scenario is that these unfortunate people have, in fact, been relocated to other areas, the spokesman ended the interview on a chilling note. He said with federal camps and a high demand for any usable body parts by the lucrative transplant industry, he feared the worst may have befallen some of DC�s �invisible residents.�

Previously published in the Wayne Madsen Report.

Copyright � 2009 WayneMadenReport.com

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and nationally-distributed columnist. He is the editor and publisher of the Wayne Madsen Report (subscription required).

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mick silver 07-17-2009 12:54 PM

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there moving to the country or could they be the ones there trying the new flu shot out on

MNeagle 07-17-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1822253)
there moving to the country or could they be the ones there trying the new flu shot out on

Yeah? Via this?
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unless they leave town with usually a one-way bus ticket provided
Homeless people in the country just doesn't jive w/ me. What am I missing?

Twisted Avatar 07-17-2009 01:20 PM

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NotTheOne 07-17-2009 01:57 PM

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Soylent Green ?

Canadian-guerilla 07-17-2009 02:09 PM

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from the movie " Extreme Measures "

" if you could cure cancer by killing one person, wouldn't you have to do that "

Shasta Gold 07-17-2009 02:53 PM

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I hope it's just "Greyhound Therapy" and not the worst (i.e., body parts for wealthy recipients).

Greyhound Therapy has been a staple of many cities' "social service" work; they give a one-way ticket to the homeless to send them to another far-away place.

wondering 07-18-2009 12:12 AM

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I am such a negative person when it comes to this. I do not have faith that this is a Greyhound situation. With the camps that are being set up all over and people have no clue what it is all being setting up for. We are being "told" one thing but what it is really for?

I tend to think that these people are missing under a more sinister reason. I do not trust those who are in charge anymore. I do not even think they know what they know what they are doing.

At this point, I trust no one. But that is just me.


Sadly these people are just :MIA:

____hoot____ 07-18-2009 12:31 AM

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Heard about the acid trucks?

WAoG 07-18-2009 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 1823225)
Heard about the acid trucks?

NO I have not!!

Unclad Lad 07-18-2009 04:36 AM

Shouldn't this be in "Conspiracies"?
 
It was a halfway decent article until

Quote:

Although the best-case scenario is that these unfortunate people have, in fact, been relocated to other areas, the spokesman ended the interview on a chilling note. He said with federal camps and a high demand for any usable body parts by the lucrative transplant industry, he feared the worst may have befallen some of DC�s �invisible residents.�
Because everyone knows that the homeless and addicts are the best source for replacement body parts. :sarc:

By the very fact they are homeless, it's easy for them to "disappear". Some go to sleep one night and never wake up, victims of hypothermia or hopelessness. Others are easy targets for crime and violence. Others still find homes, jobs, and support, very often far away from where they were. And very few of the shopping cart crowd keep meticulous records.

I can hardly wait for Mr. Madsen's expose on CHUDs.

CDUBS 07-18-2009 04:59 AM

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H1N1 vaccine comes to mind...

Glass 07-18-2009 05:07 AM

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soon it won't be just the homeless that disappear.

Osaka 07-18-2009 06:51 AM

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A real estate owner wants to sell his property. But the neighborhood has 10 homeless guys outside. The owner figures the homeless people will decrease the value of his property by $10,000. He gives each homeless guy a $60 bus ticket, and $40 cash. He sells his home for $10,000 more than he would have and pockets $9000.

dupontcobb 07-18-2009 07:59 AM

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There was an A-Team episode, I think it was called The Road To Hope, were homeless people were disappearing as well. If I remember correctly, Hannibal poses as a wino to avoid being caught by the Army and stumbles onto a racket that involves killing the derelicts. He finds out the homeless people are taken out so that criminals can use their identity.

mike77777 07-18-2009 08:08 AM

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the overpowering stench from capitol hill is more wretched than a wino with the same clothes on for 2 months. homeless have standaRDS, AND DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY OF CRIMINAL SOCIOPATHIC SODOMITES. michelle may also have needed fertilizer for the 1600 pennsylvania ave. victory garden. two plausable reasons for the "dissaperance"

wildcard 07-18-2009 08:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osaka (Post 1823481)
A real estate owner wants to sell his property. But the neighborhood has 10 homeless guys outside. The owner figures the homeless people will decrease the value of his property by $10,000. He gives each homeless guy a $60 bus ticket, and $40 cash. He sells his home for $10,000 more than he would have and pockets $9000.

Homeless guys immediately buy 40 dollars worth of Dr. Feelgood and then make their way to the bus station to refund the tickets for tomorrow's refreshment. Wind up passed out pissed drunk on the lawn.

Little Ant 07-18-2009 09:15 AM

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They're not missing. They've all just moved to my city.

Tallships 07-18-2009 09:36 AM

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Actually, the middle class has been so bankrupted and unemployed that everyone looks homeless, so the real ones don't stand out in the crowd anymore.

Operation Grief 07-18-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasta Gold (Post 1822492)
Greyhound Therapy has been a staple of many cities' "social service" work; they give a one-way ticket to the homeless to send them to another far-away place.

This goes back to the 1980s. I think it was the mayor of Philadelphia who first pulled it—rounded up some of the city's homeless and gave them one-way tickets to Phoenix. When Phoenix's mayor found out, he rounded up a bunch of his homeless and sent them to Philly as payback.

Tallships 07-18-2009 10:09 AM

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We ought to start a non-profit organization that pays for tickets to send all of Americas homeless to Washington DandC and New York City.

barter 07-18-2009 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasta Gold (Post 1822492)
Greyhound Therapy has been a staple of many cities' "social service" work; they give a one-way ticket to the homeless to send them to another far-away place.

Exactly what happened. South Shore Lake Tahoe Police Department actually has a special fund for this. One-way bus ticket and a $20 voucher at the grocery store. They have no homeless program otherwise.

EE_ 07-18-2009 10:50 AM

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randymatt 07-18-2009 10:58 AM

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Narratives of the Meanest Cities

Culture 07-18-2009 01:25 PM

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I have noticed that many of the local panhandlers disappear at intervals, almost always in groups. I have taken careful documentation and notice that this almost always coincides with the appearance of large numbers of chemtrails. Not sure what the connection is, but I am sure one exist. Any ideas?

Ragnarok 07-18-2009 01:32 PM

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Maybe they are "volunteering" or being volunteered, to be medical research subjects (aka "guinea pigs") a la The Plutonium Files.

R.

rad 07-18-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NotTheOne (Post 1822370)
Soylent Green ?

My thought exactly, dems be good eaten

Unclad Lad 07-18-2009 07:16 PM

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OK, this really needs to be moved to "Conspiracies"--this has nothing to do with Survival.

RaccoonRiverRadical 07-18-2009 07:25 PM

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They could put names to these missing people and look for them. Homeless people, especially homeless people that adopt homelessness as a lifestyle, vanish all the time. Occam's Razor says they migrate to other cities or go back home from wence they came.
I think in some instances they are John Doe's in the morgue.

Shasta Gold 07-23-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MNeagle (Post 1822216)
Although the best-case scenario is that these unfortunate people have, in fact, been relocated to other areas, the spokesman ended the interview on a chilling note. [COLOR="Blue"]He said with federal camps and a high demand for any usable body parts by the lucrative transplant industry, he feared the worst may have befallen some of DC�s �invisible residents.�

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=393445

Mayors, rabbis arrested in NJ corruption probe

Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:32pm EDT

By Edith Honan

NEWARK (Reuters) - Dozens of New Jersey politicians, officials and prominent rabbis were arrested on Thursday in a sweeping federal probe that uncovered political corruption, human organ sales and money laundering from New York to Israel, officials said.

The 10-year investigation, dubbed "Operation Bid Rig," exposed influence-peddling and bribe-taking among a network of public officials and a separate multimillion dollar money-laundering ring that funneled funds through charities operated by local rabbis, said the U.S. Attorney's office in Newark, New Jersey.

The cast of the 44 arrested featured Hoboken, New Jersey, Mayor Peter Cammarano, who took office three weeks ago in the industrial city visible across the Hudson River from New York.

Others accused were mayors of nearby Secaucus and Ridgefield, state Assemblymen, a deputy mayor, city council members, housing, planning and zoning officials, building inspectors and political candidates.

"New Jersey's corruption problem is one of the worst, if not the worst, in the nation," said Ed Kahrer, assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's white collar crime and public corruption program in New Jersey, who has worked on the investigation since it began in July 1999.

"It has become ingrained in New Jersey's political culture," he said, calling corruption "a cancer."

Central to the investigation was an informant who was charged with bank fraud in 2006 and posed undercover as a real estate developer and owner of a tile business who paid off officials to win project approval and public contracts in northern New Jersey, according to documents in the case.

The public officials stand accused of taking bribes for pledging their help getting permits and projects prioritized and approved or steering contracts to the witness.

"CULTURE OF CORRUPTION"

In scenes that could have been lifted from the hit TV series "The Sopranos," about New Jersey organized crime, they met in diners, parking lots, even bathrooms, officials said.

"The politicians willingly put themselves up for sale," said Acting U.S. Attorney Ralph Marra. "The victims are the average citizens and the honest business people in this state. They don't have a chance in this culture of corruption."

The public corruption uncovered by the informant led him to the separate money-laundering network by rabbis who operated between Brooklyn, Deal, New Jersey, and Israel, authorities said. They laundered some $3 million for the undercover witness between June 2007 and July 2009, authorities said.

"These complaints paint a disgraceful picture of religious leaders heading money laundering crews acting as crime bosses," Marra said. "They used purported charities, entities supposed set up to do good works as vehicles for laundering millions of dollars in illicit funds."

HUMAN KIDNEY SALES

Rabbis accused of money-laundering were Saul Kassin, chief rabbi of a large Syrian Jewish synagogue in Brooklyn; Eliahu Ben Haim, principal rabbi of a synagogue in Deal; Edmund Nahum, principal rabbi of another synagogue in Deal; and Mordchai Fish, a rabbi at a synagogue in Brooklyn.

The probe also uncovered Levy Izhak Rosenbaum of Brooklyn, who is accused of conspiring to broker the sale of a human kidney for a transplant. According to the complaint, Rosenbaum said he had been brokering sale of kidneys for 10 years.

"His business was to entice vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 which he would turn around and sell for $160,000," said Marra.

Several of the public officials were accused of taking bribes of just $10,000, authorities said. Cammarano, at 31 the youngest ever mayor of Hoboken, was charged with taking $25,000 in bribes, including $10,000 last Thursday.

Most of those accused were arrested in a sweep across New Jersey by more than 300 federal agents early on Thursday and were slated to appear in court in Newark throughout the day.

The first 12 of the defendants, including Cammarano, appeared shackled before U.S. Magistrate Judge Madeline Cox Arleo. Cammarano rocked back and forth in his chair but betrayed no emotion.

They were granted bail ranging from $100,000 to $500,000.

(Additional reporting by Michelle Nichols and Ellen Wulfhorst; Writing by Ellen Wulfhorst; Editing by Doina Chiacu)


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MNeagle 07-23-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1824174)
OK, this really needs to be moved to "Conspiracies"--this has nothing to do with Survival.

It does if you're homeless.

Shasta Gold 07-23-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MNeagle (Post 1832396)
It does if you're homeless.

Which many here at GIM shall be before this economic collapse abates...

gunDriller 07-23-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasta Gold (Post 1822492)
I hope it's just "Greyhound Therapy" and not the worst (i.e., body parts for wealthy recipients).

"as people become more desperate in the midst of a collapsing economy, it's logical that the rate of involuntary organ donations would increase."

i remember a few years ago, there was an article in the paper about an 80-something year old homeless guy who got hit by a car near a coffee place in town. dead. he had a trailer in a storage space with all his stuff, the short obit said. <moment of silence>

people do just drop out one by one, but i wouldn't doubt skulduggery via organ donations etc.

i'm even a little concerned about travelling overseas with gold dental work in my mouth. :s10:

wildcard 07-24-2009 05:16 AM

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Maybe the rabbis and mayors in NJ were buying them to sell off their parts.

Saul Mine 07-24-2009 08:06 AM

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It's a very old idea. About forty years ago NYC got very concerned about reducing traffic congestion. The best idea anybody came up with was to make all the streets one way going north and let White Plains figure out what to do about it.

Golddust 07-31-2009 01:41 PM

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On CNN last few days ,

Short snippets.

NYC buying ticket's for the homeless and flying them out to other states

July 29, 2009, 12:40 pm <!-- date updated --> <!-- <abbr class="updated" title="2009-07-29T16:13:14-04:00">— Updated: 4:13 pm</abbr> --> <!-- Title --> Mayor Defends One-Way Tickets for Homeless

<!-- By line --><address class="byline author vcard">By Julie Bosman AND Michael Barbaro</address> <!-- The Content --> Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg defended a city program to send homeless families out of New York on planes, trains and buses on Wednesday, saying it �saves the taxpayers of New York City an enormous amount of money.�
Speaking in the Blue Room in City Hall to announce a new finance commissioner, Mr. Bloomberg was asked if the program simply shifts the homelessness program to a different place, as some critics of the program have suggested.
�I don�t know, when they get to the other places, whether they find jobs,� Mr. Bloomberg said. �It may be an easier place for them. If we don�t � we either have two choices. We can do this program or pay an enormous amount of money daily to provide housing.�
It costs the city about $36,000 a year to provide shelter for a homeless family. The average stay in shelter is about nine months.
But Mr. Bloomberg appeared sensitive to the image of flying homeless families to far-flung places, as the program is set up to do. In the past two years, families have been provided one-way tickets to Haiti, Peru, Mexico City, St. Croix, Trinidad and Tobago, Ukraine, Santo Domingo and Casablanca. (The most popular destinations are Puerto Rico, Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas.)
�The average cost is trivial,� Mr. Bloomberg said. �Most go by bus. Very few go overseas, very few go long distances. Bus is the normal ways we pay for transportation, rather than air.�
In fact, the most common mode of travel for families in the program is air, not bus. Forty-eight percent travel by airplane; 37 percent by bus; and 15 percent by train, according to city data.

Dave Thomas 07-31-2009 01:59 PM

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^^ - WOW

During the downtown superbowl party in 2004 here in Houston they must have sent out a derelict sweeping squad. Because there wasn't panhandler ONE downtown. I don't know what they do with them, but they do end up somewhere else. Eventually they started coming back, but for about two weeks before and after the downtown super bowl party there was virtually no homeless downtown.

So they are definitely moving them, to where is the question. I wouldn't be surprised if major metropolises play hot potato with their homeless population.


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